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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 7:46 PM
there is no correct way
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it can be as simple as thinking "whats your favorite color" and hearing "purple" in your head like any other thought
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and for me it sounded like a nonsense answer my brain threw at me, and i just thought it was that until i realized i could just interpret it as the tulpa and they would develop from that
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and she did
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who knows, its dumb
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Because people like to group things It's not necessary though
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 7:49 PM
tulpamancy things have evolved a lot since like 2013 or whenever it started
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people try new things and see what works
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if there was a big reset button that removed all tulpa guides from existence im sure many here would press that
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you do the swaying by thinking your own automatic nonsense answer is the tulpa
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and you keep talking to it and it develops, even if it feels like your own answers that come out of nowhere
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does the answer sound like how you imagine your tulpa would be? you consider that the tulpa. does it say something that goes against what they are or is it an insult to you? not your tulpa
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eventually answers become longer and turn into whole sentences
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i and many others think the consciousness doesnt split, but you share it with everyone in your head
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Parroting works, which is why roleplayers end up with accidental tulpas
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 7:54 PM
parroting is intentional, where you ask them something, and then you intentionally think of a suitable answer
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you cant parrot unintentionally
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Yeah
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 7:54 PM
if you ask "whats your favorite color" and "purple" just pops up without any intentions, its not parroting
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No, because you still have different identities They just both identify with the same consciousness
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i mean, if youre lying to yourself and you believe it, does it really matter?
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Kei Wendt
Way to be condescending I'm not answering unless you can explain if you meant that or not
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 9/6/2023 7:55 PM
first time?
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Yes...
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you believe in it and the experience, so.. its real to you and thats all that matters! there is no way to physically prove it (right now)! (edited)
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 9/6/2023 7:55 PM
you guys are so slow to catch up about the situation
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(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 7:56 PM
what is "you"?
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i think "me" is thoughts that sound like my thoughts and all the small things i do without noticing
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
you guys are so slow to catch up about the situation
I'm slow today I keep saying weird ooc things in servers Same thing momo was doing yesterday
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 7:56 PM
when i switch with emmi, those things shift so much they dont remind me a lot of myself
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
you guys are so slow to catch up about the situation
im sorry ive forsaken you KiTkAT
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
when i switch with emmi, those things shift so much they dont remind me a lot of myself
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 9/6/2023 7:57 PM
you never switched with emmi
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 7:57 PM
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no sillyness in #tulpa-questions-2
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 9/6/2023 7:57 PM
i'm saying i never saw the proof
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blanka
I don't think I've ever seen someone work so hard to be difficult to help when asking for help, outside of maybe Juesto
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 9/6/2023 7:58 PM
🙃
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 7:59 PM
tulpa stuff is playing with your own conception of what "you" are, and believing in it
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 9/6/2023 7:59 PM
nah i don't feel like wasting breath today
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/6/2023 8:01 PM
this is the 4th time I've seen the same question copy-pasted (first two times are deleted now)... I think most of the regulars have answered it now
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I answered it twice!
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 8:01 PM
im on my first try lookingupsmile
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/6/2023 8:01 PM
my advice is still pendulum method, in order to get experience of the feeling of presence
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 8:02 PM
its called tulpamancy practice, because you need to practice it until it feels like you're where you want to be
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
im on my first try lookingupsmile
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 9/6/2023 8:02 PM
🙏 gl
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 8:05 PM
so summed up, its all about convincing yourself that you're not alone in your head, instead of doing something until one day you hear some clear alien voice saying something to you
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eventually you can tell your and your tulpa's thoughts apart automatically
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when you convince yourself, some unexpected things can happen, i had a couple of those when i realized i felt completely different and acted differently in ways i didnt think intentionally
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we were pretty blended together
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headmate smoothie
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first time on the verge of switching etc
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 9/6/2023 8:27 PM
since this was deleted, reposting (edited)
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 9/6/2023 8:32 PM
🤭
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 9/6/2023 8:36 PM
sorry i don't speak fraud
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i don't know what that button is
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Actually that's not how it works You'll stop seeing kitkat's, but she won't stop seeing yours unless she blocks you
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It's block in german
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teasip
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Kei Wendt
Actually that's not how it works You'll stop seeing kitkat's, but she won't stop seeing yours unless she blocks you
berockly (TTG) 9/6/2023 8:44 PM
Well, he was correct
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He said if kitkat presses it kitkat wont see his messages
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Dont confuse him! i think english wasnt his first language
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(Sorry I'm a bit late, but) My system is for stopping using the terms "active" and "passive" forcing, namely because "passive forcing" is not a helpful concept in any way shape or form
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Oh I guess i was confused
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TiCtAc(✧×✧) BOT 9/6/2023 8:46 PM
simplify all the terms, reverse the multiplication of subcategories
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
since this was deleted, reposting (edited)
That's something someone could take back, though. I feel like it's less fair to repost that
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This reads as so condescending in english that it's funny, so I assume it's a language thing. But just to be safe in case it was at all intentional - try not to take a sassy or critical tone towards people just trying to help you. (edited)
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(Okay yeah, definitely a language thing..)
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I'm not sure what you're referring to with swing
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My answers from before said all there really was to say on the subject though, tulpa development occurs by holding the idea that another person exists in your head, practicing that thought/feeling through whatever means appeal to you (talking, visualizing, etc.)
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Oh, the pendulum method would go under "etc." in those parentheses above
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We aren't users of the pendulum method and don't believe it's necessary, so I can't really help with it, sorry
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/6/2023 8:53 PM
lookingdownsmile i wasnt talking about the pendulum
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My system firmly believes simply talking to and visualizing your tulpa is all you need to develop them
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(Can't give very good instructions for people with aphantasia though, as we're not sure what exact extents certain kinds of thoughts and feelings are possible for them, so we can only give vague guidance)
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I feel like with aphantasia you could just imagine that you're visualizing them Like, sense their presence
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈
my advice is still pendulum method, in order to get experience of the feeling of presence
i wasnt talking about the pendulum
Oops, I saw a purple name and thought it was you who mentioned the pendulum
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8:55 PM
I didn't follow the whole discussion so I'm not sure what swinging/rocking could refer to, but uhhh, I said what I had to say on the topic?
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Mostly just wanted to make that comment on the term "passive forcing" and also remind not to be rude/sassy (though I still feel like that's partially just a language problem)
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🌙 Night Goddess Luna 🌙 9/9/2023 5:20 PM
You can talk to them and parot as well as visualize what they'd do in a specific situation like if your an active day dreamer
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Are giving them a personality? Or are you just letting it form
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As well as with what they look like
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What do you mean
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Kyoya Ootori (Starry System) BOT 9/9/2023 5:24 PM
So do you not have a specific personality for your tulpa to build off of?
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🌙 Night Goddess Luna 🌙 9/9/2023 5:25 PM
That's what I asked
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show them things you like, or things your friends like. showing them your interests/hobbies/etc can help them form an opinion and an identity. if you two can easily converse with eachother, then try switching as a way for them to immerse themselves with the world. for me, personally, us switching and them talking with my friends, trying out some of my hobbies, watching videos/movies or playing games is a nice way of bonding with my headmates and it helps them to form personality and opinions on things. (edited)
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if you cant switch then focusing on them and believing that they are watching and paying attention to what you show them could work too.
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if you cant switch then focusing on them and believing that they are watching and paying attention to what you show them could work too.
That's what I did :p I constantly spoke to them and then one day, Melanie responded and yeah :D
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What I did was just speak to my tulpas constantly and occasionally parrot them. I would also have sessions where I declared what the base for their personality is.
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Active forcing is focusing solely on your tulpas whilst forcing, which is what I did. I sometimes spoke to them whilst doing work, but my sessions of talking about their personality basis were active, so what I said still applies.
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i know we all sound like broken records, constantly repeating ourselves, but i feel like this is caused in some part by your strict belief in tulpamancy guides. you don't believe with your effort your tulpa can speak yet, so they do not. in someway, somehow, you need to let go and realize all those guides aren't true to every single experience of tulpamancy. i think you're actively hindering their development.
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Exactly.
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whatever you do is enough as long as you believe in it.
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Whenever I parroted, I told myself that my headmates were still, in some part, contributing to the words.
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when i was first making a tulpa, i NEVER "active forced", which, to be honest, was very rude of me since i should've definitely been spending time with her and making her feel loved. i only talked to her while being preoccupied and expected a response eventually, after about 2 weeks, she spoke back. i did the BARE MINIMUM and made one. my young age and blind belief back then probably contributed? but i did basically nothing and still had a tulpa. (edited)
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/9/2023 5:38 PM
tulpamancy is gaslighting yourself to have your brain give you thoughts that sound like someone else, and then they start happening consistently and it might as well be someone else
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your own personality grows with the whole fake till you make it logic too, we're all just made up thought patterns in the head
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there's nothing more to it
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maybe? i never had any previous experiences with more than one person in the head besides maybe roleplaying and being invested in my original characters.
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 9/9/2023 5:42 PM
maybe thats the thing that blocks you from getting there
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believing that
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believing that you need extreme concentration to somehow break something
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